Forum: The Racing Rules of Sailing

Measurement Basis of Hull Length or Hull Lengths and Associated Rules

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John Quirk
Nationality: New Zealand
Some technical guidance please, from my learned colleagues, as follows:

The term hull length or hull lengths is expressed in a few rules (generally to specify distance to a mark or from another boat etc), and while not a defined term within itself, it is used in other DEFINITIONS (i.e. Continuing Obstruction, Obstruction and Zone); similarly in the Case Book.

For those purposes, how is hull length (HL) actually measured though: length on deck (LOD) – excluding protrusions (e.g. a bow roller, bowsprit or sugar scoop etc) or length overall (LOA) – including a sprit or waterline length (WL) or otherwise strict measurement basis?

Finally, given relevant rules where hull length or hull lengths is used (e.g. 18.2 (a) (1))): how relevant to some classes with lengthy flying sail sprits or bowsprits is this (e.g. my own racing yacht has a fixed 2.5mtr flying sails sprit) – and conversely the opposing boat does not?

Created: Sat 17:23

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Jacob Andersen
Have a look at Equipment Rules of Sailing:
Part 2 – Definitions
Section D – Hull Definitions

Created: Sat 17:33
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John Quirk
Nationality: New Zealand
Thank you Jacob, and see it all now (THE EQUIPMENT RULES OF SAILING for 2025-2028; D.1.1, D.3.1, H.3.4 / Section F (i))
 

Created: Yesterday 00:57
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John Allan
Nationality: Australia
Little bit of subtlety going on here.

ERS, and hence the definitions contained in them, are not  Rules (unless expressly switched in in the NOR/SI)

But RRS Introduction Terminology provides

Other words and terms are used in the sense ordinarily understood in nautical or general use. For a source of the nautical sense of a word, a reader may refer to The Equipment Rules of Sailing.
Created: Yesterday 08:13
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John Quirk
Nationality: New Zealand
Reply to: 20221 - John Allan
Thanks John, and with Jacob as well, now got got reading-up and have a handle on it all now...
Created: Yesterday 11:06
Jim Champ
Nationality: United Kingdom
I'm not sure that the recent revisions involving hull have been an improvement. We have the situation where bowsprit doesn't count for over the line or hull length, but does count for overlap. And ERS isn't that helpful when it comes to hull length. If you take a modern 18 or other similar craft there's a nominally vertical stem, but a tube projecting from that, with bracing structure both beneath and to each side. Throroughly part of the hull. OK, count it as bow sprit. Maybe. But in other classes you have exactly the same, but a solid construction. Look at these two. Where, in ERS terms is the bow on each, and how on earth do you tell who is over if you are sighting a busy startline? 
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Created: Yesterday 13:25
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