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  • Dan .. I just looked up at my previous post and noticed I didn't put quotes around "protest" after "do your turns" and that turned protest into a verb instead of spoken words as I intended.  

    We don't have a specific WS Case that I am aware of that as Draconian as to not allow 2-3 words be spoken before the word "protest" .. as long as the entire phrase only takes 2-3 sec's, I'm OK with it. 

    If someone hails ...
    • "Sail 379 Protest", I'm OK with that. 
    • "Do your turns, Protest", I'm Ok with that too. 
    • "Gosh darn it, Protest", that's fine. 

    However ...
    • Just "Do your turns!" - nope
    • "You fouled me, take a penalty" - nope
    • "Come on Joe, what were you thinking? [reply] I had to bear way off. [reply] Really? You're not doing turns? [reply] "Protest!" - nope. 

    PS Dan ...

    I want to repeat to underline this. If the OA/RC of a "weekend fun" race wants to, they can remove the flag requirement all together or change the protest requirements to suit what the competitors want. 

    In the end, we are trying to serve-up the racing experience that people want. If the racers communicate to the OA that they want the standards for protest validity to be lower .. they can write that in. Nearly the entirety of Part 5 is changeable by NOR/SI under RRS 86. 

    However, after making such changes they may find an entire new slew of complaints that people had no idea they were being protested on the water. 

    PS2: Along with that, they could extend the time that a boat can take a penalty, as RRS 44 is changeable.  For instance, you could state that turns have to be done within 30 secs of an incident or before finishing for instance. 

    All these areas of complaint can be experimented with to see what works best for the event and competitors. 
    Today 10:44
  •  The electronic system used at my club will not allow a protest to be submitted unless there is an entry in the respective fields of Initiator, respondent and incident description so people are prompted to ensure all necessary info is provided.

    T
    his of course would be user-friendly. Unfortunately being user-friendly does not seem to be on the agenda of many of those who write the systems we are obliged to use.
    Each system seems to be good at one aspect of event management and poor at others. As a result, a major multi-class event I am attending is intending to use M2S for entries, Halsail for results and RRS for the protest committee!

    A supplementary question:
    A competitor delivers a protest identifying the boat as, for instance 'the sailor from XXX (country) who always wears a pink life jacket. After the protest time limit, the competitor discovers the correct sail number. Rule 60.3 does not allow for information to be corrected or updated. 
    What should the competitor do?
    If the competitor delivers a second protest with the protestee's sail number, should the PC extend the time limit.
    Today 09:55
  • i agree with Angelo (and others who get to the same points).
    Yesterday 19:47
  • Case 35 seems not to help as it relates to passing astern. 

    Yesterday 14:51
  • Hi Peter,

    Thanks for the clarity.  Gee, I should stop procrastinating and become a patron.  

    Yesterday 00:31

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