Race Committee & Race Management
I Flag Start, When must Flag X be displayed
RRS 29.1 states
29.1 Individual Recall
When at a boat’s starting signal any part of her hull is on the course side of the starting line or she must comply with rule 30.1, the race committee shall promptly display flag X with one sound.
RRS 30.1 states
30.1 I Flag Rule
If flag I has been displayed, and any part of a boat’s hull is on the course side of the starting line or one of its extensions during the last minute before her starting signal, she shall sail across an extension so that her hull is completely on the pre-start side before she starts.
With an I flag start, if the race committee observes a boat on the course side of the starting line or its extensions after the 1 minute signal but before the starting signal, when must the race committee display the I flag?
29.1 Individual Recall
When at a boat’s starting signal any part of her hull is on the course side of the starting line or she must comply with rule 30.1, the race committee shall promptly display flag X with one sound.
RRS 30.1 states
30.1 I Flag Rule
If flag I has been displayed, and any part of a boat’s hull is on the course side of the starting line or one of its extensions during the last minute before her starting signal, she shall sail across an extension so that her hull is completely on the pre-start side before she starts.
With an I flag start, if the race committee observes a boat on the course side of the starting line or its extensions after the 1 minute signal but before the starting signal, when must the race committee display the I flag?
Created: Today 09:56
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Supplementary question: Who uses India and why?
I don't think that 'RRS 29.1 is clear that the X Ray and additional sound is at the start signal' when Flag I is displayed. Otherwise I wouldn't have asked the question.
It appears to me that a boat's obligation to comply with RRS 30.1 and sail back across an extension, begins at the time the race committee observes her on the course side, and RRS 29.1 provides that 'When ... [a boat] must comply with RRS 30.1 the race committee shall promptly display Flag X ... .
On I flag, the RC committee has to react also on boats over the extensions.
Not so fast .. John's got a point. Here is 29.1 separated to make John's question clearer.
The above can be easily read in such a way that as soon as ("when") a boat must comply with 30.1, the RC shall signal.
The way we customarily read 29.1 is as if it it said ...
.. but that's not what's written.
In the original 29.1, there is only 1 "or" and only 1 comma.
That one comma makes everything before it one phrase. The "or" is in the middle of that phrase.
The first phrase sets 2 test conditions separated by the "or". "or" works such that if either condition is true .. the statement is true (this is the same Boolean logic issue that screwed-up 3rd party protests in the current quad).
A boat must comply with 30.1 anytime in the last min they are OCS. That makes the "or-statement" true .. and that triggers the action in the 2nd 1/2 of 29.1 ("..the race committee shall promptly display flag X with one sound") because its timing is "when".
It's simply not the clearest the way it's written. Another option to make it clearer is.
Keep it simple: What is the goal of X?
In race signals it is called "Individual recall" . Where is the meaning of the recall of a boat that (still) did not broke any rules?
Why to display it differently on P or I?
So, change the wording if it is wrong. Patch the rules text.
Disclaimer: not using I for years, just P, U or black.
In P or I starts, there are usualy some/several boats over in the last minute. On I, usually behind the RC boat, waiting the last 20-30 sec to return back over the extension and start properly. No one broke the rules.
You probably must, if you follow the rules on this way, bring up the X as you put down I.
Is this the meaning of X?
Moreover, consider the situation where a boat is over the line at 50 seconds, sails around the pin and back by 20 seconds before the start. If you choose the second interpretation, you raise the flag with a horn at 50 seconds with a horn, drop it again at 20, and maybe raise it again with a second horn if someone is OCS at the start. Confusing to say the least.
Why choose the version that results in a lot of unnecessary confusion when the simpler and more grammatically correct one does not? Adding more words including two separate paragraphs just for those who get wish to read a sentence in a non-standard way seems like a waste of space.
You'll still see boats above the line at a minute (we'll generally hail them). They are not in a bad position, though, since they were intending to get out around one end or the other anyway. Putting up X-ray with a horn would be distracting and confusing.
But in the final thirty seconds, the boats are generally set up a little farther from the line than without the I flag. It usually does make the fleet more well behaved.
There are couple of important differences between the U and I flags, as I see it. First, under an I flag, being OCS at a minute is easily recoverable and may even be intentionally done as a way to get to the other end of the line in clear air and out of traffic. A U flag results in DSQ without hearing if you are OCS at a minute. In dinghy starts, a minute is a long time.
But being OCS at 20 seconds is really going to screw you, while the other boats have no incentive to press the line. They know, especially if they hear your number called, that the fact you are bow out on them is not an issue. You will be out of their way and they are more content to hang back the proper distance from the line
There are five different "Preparatory" flags that may be displayed at the 4 minute signal and removed at the one minute signal. (According to RRS 26 start)
Code Flag "P" or "I" or "Z" or "Z with I" or "U" or "Black Flag".
Normally, races are started with the "P" however, the RC may decide to use any of these flags should the SI states "Starts will be in accordance with RRS 26".
Each flag has it's consequences where vessel are not in compliance.
This means that line extends forever, technically you’re over that line if you’re above it and outside the extensions!
This means that if a boat has not cleared herself at the start (including being above the starting line at the extensions), she is OCS until she clears per 30.1, and X must be flown at the starting signal.
Edit to add: X stays up until all boats have cleared per 30.1, e.g. all boats have passed to the pre course side of the line and the extensions.
John
When, at a boat’s starting signal,
1. a boat is over the line, or
2. she must comply…