Forum: The Racing Rules of Sailing

Judges walking the Dock

Robert Stewart
Nationality: Canada
I’ve noticed multiple incidents during racing where boats clearly infringe the rules—whether it’s mark-room, port-starboard, or right-of-way situations—and yet very few hearing requests are being filed afterward. Sailing is a self-policing sport, and the protest system exists to ensure fairness and proper rule enforcement. So why are competitors hesitant to use it?
Is it a lack of understanding of the protest process? A perception that filing a protest is “unsportsmanlike”? Fear of conflict or retribution? Or something else entirely?
Would having judges walk the docks before racing help?
For example, their presence might make the process feel more approachable, allow sailors to ask questions informally, and encourage legitimate protests to be filed when needed.
I’d love to hear perspectives from sailors, judges, and race organizers on what’s driving the low number of hearings and what actions could improve rule adherence and competitor confidence in the system.

Created: Today 04:13

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John Allan
Nationality: Australia
I'd sugges that the main reason is that, in many incidents, competitors are satisfied that the incident made no significant difference to their results and rationally decide not to spend  time and effort in the protest process.
Created: Today 05:55
Capt Tribhuwan Jaiswal
Nationality: India
I tend to agree with John regarding sailors not protesting every incidence on water.
Further, I am of the opinion that Judges walking in the park, in a pair though, is definitely a constructive activity. It gives an informal environment to the sailors to approach and interact with the judges. The sailors do have many questions but are not sure when and where to interact with the judges. This walk in the park will encourage sailors interaction with judges and have a positive effect on the competitor's confidence on the system. 
Created: Today 08:34
Alessandro Tritto
Nationality: Italy
When asked how many players are on the pitch in soccer, many would answer 22, but in reality it's 23 because the referee is part of the active game. In sailing, the Referee Committee CdP isn't part of the active game but is there waiting for someone to activate them. One of the biggest problems I observe, both as a racer and especially as CdR member is that these individuals speak a strange language full of exceptions. Instead of simplifying the game, they complicate it, and the protester and the protested party, in addition to being subjected to a wait and interrogation, very often emerge with confused ideas and penalties they don't understand. Ending up in front of the Referee Committee sometimes means having a terrible afternoon or staying up late. So why not resolve the situation like good friends over a cheerful beer? After all, sailing is a sport that should be fun. In my experience, I've never witnessed a protest discussion where the participants were having fun. So why go and poison a beautiful day?
Created: Today 08:51
Doc Sullivan
Nationality: United States
Robert I echo your questions and agree that people do not want to be bothered by the process of protesting. I see that individuals on the race course at the club level often have an insufficient knowledge of the rules short of port starboard. Perhaps we should spend more time in education.  I have found that a rules talk in the spring (I use “Arounf the Course” Ppt as a base). In addition a post race debrief has been well accepted and is a good way to apply the rules to the situation at hand. You can combine this with addition of Appendix V2 (post race penalty) can put the competitors in the driver seat as they are responsible for their actions on the race course. When used the competitors do find this a a helpful tool which improves their knowledge of the rules and does not cut into their post race activities 

Created: Today 11:51
Leo Reise (IJ Retired)
Nationality: Canada
An IJ that did a lot of teaching, in one of the seminars I attended, said to the room: ,There are two sets of rules at play on any race course: the Racing Rules of Sailing; and, the Jungle Rules.  The difference between them is what results from an interaction.
The easiest example I can think of is a starting line in a large fleet.  If you watch, rule 11 is broken so many times, yet seldom is a flag seen.  Why?  Because it's just the way it is.  Likewise for tight mark rounding.
When it does matter to the boats involved, you definitely will see a protest result.
Created: Today 12:07
John Sweeney
Nationality: United States
Because it’s self-policing, there are many reason that competitors don’t feel compelled to protest, but for me and most everyone I know the overwhelming reason is to avoid the colossal waste of time that is the protest filing process and hearing. 
And there’s the fact that, no matter how right the protestor may be, once in ‘the room’, one’s chances are 50/50 of favorable outcome. 
As far as judges walking the docks, presumably to encourage lodging protests, that would greatly detract from the reasons my friends and I race together. 
Created: Today 12:40
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Angelo Guarino
Forum Moderator
Nationality: United States
John S re: the colossal wate of time ...

In my recent red-flag thread, I wrote this comment about times when invalidity seems ridiculous to the parties ...  which I think is part of it.

At the heart of that thread is the same issue as this one: Lack of even rules enforcement across the race course. A disrespected protest-system is only one brick in that wall.

Many, many years ago, I wrote a very long post that tried to examine what I saw as some of the other root causes; some of which i saw as internal in nature to the competitor. It was titled:

“I owe you one”, “Was MY score effected?”, “Not-Worthiness” and “Stigma”; Four Mindsets Eroding Fair-Sailing in Club-Level Racing.

My thesis (and it seems Robert's in this thread) hasn't changed since I wrote it. These factors, and the impression that the protest process isn't worth the time and effort, result in the rules applying to some but not others on the water resulting in an uneven playing field. 
Created: Today 13:07
Paulo Sousa
Nationality: Portugal
Alessandro made a very good prespective of sailor's view these days. The problem is that something was forgotten on the way: The rules are there to protect everyone and to ensure that everyone is playing the same game, making it fair.
There is no problem if a competitor breaks a rule. Everybody does it. There is a problem if a competitor breaks a rule on purpose and/or he or she doesn't get a penalty for the breach.
Robert, thank you very much for opening this discussion, the matter concerns me a lot as well. Even thought, I think the main problem isn't having many infringements and few hearings, rather, having many infringements and such few penalties taken or given. 
Many years ago, my first sailing coach was preparing me for my first Regatta, and the first rule he taught was that I could and should penalise myself for a breach. It was an honor issue. Now, we see coaches teaching theirs kids ways of brealing the rules without getting caught.
Created: Today 12:50
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